Benjamin 392S .22-Caliber Bolt Action Variable Pump Air Rifle, Black. Posted by 24 days ago. They are all very nice guns and are accurate enough to pot a cottontail rabbit at 35 yards with open sights. How does the Gamo Shadow 1000 compare to the 392 in accuracy with open sights(if u discount the fact that i dont know the correct way to hold and shoot springers)? Its the best adjustable mount on the market. Some book store than? Pumps easy. Pumps six through eight will be harder, but you dont always need them. If you are talking about a small house rat, five pumps should do the trick without over-penetration. When you close the pump handle, make your pumping hand flat to keep fingers out of the way. Smoothness allows for good velocity and accuracy without a lot of after-rifling work. maybe maybe maybe maybe. Any info you have would be most appreciated. In .20, thats in the 11-grain range. Oil there. No gaudy scopes, lasers or SWAT team bolt-onsjust a simple means to a beautiful lawn and garden. They did fall below target but Id expect that being slightly heavier that the crosmans. This air rifle is very quiet compared to my RWS Diana 45 spring-piston and seems to hit much harder. refills are about 20 cents an ounce so it wouldnt be too big of a deal, especially if i buy a few tanks to keep filled if i run out. Thanks in advance for your response and all your informative posts. the fps of this rifle is down quite a bit,i would have to buy co2 for it, or refill the tank. i dont want to ruin my gun. But most of the time I shoot standing on back patio five yards back,.hang with me BB, Im going somewhere with this ok. With a couple of cement blocks and a 44 of western cedar, I line up four water filled aluminum cans 6 apart, with those little bright orange stickers you see in the produce section at the grocery store, slapped right in the middle of them. I just want a little added insurance if you know what I mean. You leave it fully charged all the time. I bought my Benjamin in 1964. Make the final ten shots 8 strokes each. how do u remove the rear blade sites on a 392. When something is put in quotes and isnt a direct quote, it means that everything inside the quotation marks is untrue. Either of these two guys is perfect for your needs. Now Im using a Remington airmaster 77 with a Bushnell 6-1850 scope. Thanks a lot.-Bob. Unfortunately, I dont have access to any stores that sell .22 caliber pellets other than Fleet Farm and Walmart. I pulled my old, old Crosman model 1 out of the attic and got re-addicted to pellet guns before it lost compression (in the rear seal, not the pump arm seal. I have killed cottontails at 35 yards with a Blue Streak. But then again, I am most certain that I am not the best of shot, and many of the groupings could have been better with a different shooter! Works great and quiets the slapping sound/impact on the barrel a good bit. Once the sight is removed, you are left with the pieces of metal with groves in them (one on each side). It will take some time for what happens next. :) Anyway I was wondering do you think a 15 year old male could easily pump this gun. Benjamin Airguns- Model 392 Bolt Action .22 Pump Air Rifle. Also I am living in NJ and I am forced to shoot indoors I have a 55 foot+ range with cement walls do you think this rifle is too powerfull to shoot indoors? Maybe, I can repair these too have tried 3 in 1 oil on them but not the pelligunoil. 2 more photos This gun has a grooved brass barrel and is designed for accurate target shooting lead the pellet. The 392 looks like it might be my next rifle for pest removal. I found the effort to pump up the gun was very easy, even up to the max eight pumps. This gun doesnt require any accessories at all. Monte Carlo stock has lots of advantages including: The Benjamin 392 uses a .22 pellet as its only ammo. Do I tighten the left screw and loosen the right screw or vice versa? It wont take too long before Crosman has to make a tough decision. I was just on the GTA site a guy by Name Bob did a disco .25 using the benjamin. Today, the gun has an American hardwood stock, which gives the manufacturer other options that may be more readily available. A peep is placed close to the eye for greater precision. For my needs, Im probably going to stay with open sights (unless I cant get this question solved!). If so, the peep needs a higher front sight to compensate. We look forward to having you join us on a regular basis. It has twice the power of the AS392T, weighs a pound less and is far more accurate. I was thinking that if I wanted to lower the elevation, wouldnt I just have to apply a similar pressure on the sight?, seeing as it has that same pressure otherwise. I was going to get a quest 1000/Storm 1000, but was told by a sales rep that the Quest was junk, and the Storm looks like the same gun with slightly different weights and barrel lengths. This comment has been removed by a blog administrator. When i started tightening the front part, the scew justs kept rolling as if it had no thread. and thengoing thru a bunch of various style pelletsfrom Straight Shooters Variety Pack,it seems that Match Grade WadCutterswork best in this gun. Push the bolt handle forward into its position. Yes to a blog on your Steriod Streak, When you have the time. its a petty good idea how he did it.is he selling the kit he used to accomplished that,just wondering. As I began my research, I ran across this website and this particular thread. , Copyright 1999-2022 Pyramyd Air. B.B.Your last two paragraphs were interesting, I was all set to trade my old 312 (it needs some work on it, after all of these years) in on a new 392, it seems to be well liked, (the 392s) by the comments Ive read in this column. Heres something, the barrel of my 392 had black paint in the end that I removed with q-tips and nail polish remover ok Ive got plenty of time on my hands. Let us know how you're doing thanks. Pellgunoil may work, but I would use it only in a pinch. I had a Benjamin .22 (possibly a 392) back in the 70's. What about putting a piece of plastic over the top of the rear sight, using it as the peep sight then? Anyways, My range is fairly simple. Were they discontinued in wood stock form? Is there something else under $200 that I should consider. The Benjamin 397 is fine for hunting small game. Because the intermounts place the scope forward, my suggestion would be long scope for this gun or one with plenty of eye relief, perhaps a pistol scope. any ideas? Although this mount specifically does not say that its for the 397/392, Crosman makes both those rifle and the Blue Streak and there isnt much difference between them. I was shooting in the standing position without sandbags, so well blame the drop on human error. I plan to use the Weaver B-square scope base for the Benjamin blue streak and accushot 2 piece 1 weaver rings. 612.1 FPS and 11.9 FPE with Crosman 14.3 grains pointed hunting pellet. I think using my Sierra is making me a better shot with my 397!! I did a web search, and found your web site, among others. Theres another one of those stickers on it!!! Of course, these could all be flukes and these pellets could be very innacurrate. how safe would the benjamin be if i shot it in my basement at three pumps (i can improvise a pellet trap and backstop)? This isnt common, however, you are shooting very close. Should I add pellgunoil to the joints, or is this just what happens when the joints are not in motion for an extended time? Itd look cooler too!!! Im afraid to use a bore brush. Buyer beware, if you buy this rifle then you better be ready to hate life. There are a couple of different listings on online retailed websites with different prices. My pick is the 392 because .22 caliber is a preferred hunting caliber. Will a Red Dot sight be accurate on the Benjamin? If the accuracy is as respectable as my Gamo Shadow 1000, thats fine. Most of what I will say about the 347 (the .177-caliber version of the gun) also applies to the .22-caliber model 342. Will 23 have the 392 or will they take advantage of the anniversary of the Rubicon by launching the Hurricane 3.0L. That is the date I published it. You need to shim the front of the sight to bring it up. Yes, the power is lower and, yes, it varies with temperature. Some time will elapse before the next window opens, showing all your finds. Nearly 900 fps. I need a small rifle for my girlfriend to shoot. If you have gone in the other direction, the spring is relaxed and that WILL CAUSE the shifting aim points you describe. Comes with a crossbolt safety for safe handling. BB-Thanks for the quick response. Well, now you are using good pellets. And you must hunt in season with a license. ok. ill try this and get back to you. OK BB. Thanks again, Thomas, /blog/2005/11/is-your-airgun-barrel-really-clean/. Theres no way to tighten them enough and I have no way to use the scope. Last nitght I put a little pellgun oil on the breech seal, and it cracked off like a .22. The Sheridan is what I had on my mind. Remember, that 1000 f.p.s. I know youre on a budget, but you cant shoot for free. This is the best Air Rifle I have ever used. Mine was probably taken by a U.S. restaurant inside team that steals CC slips. One has a strange rear site which are two half circles. They should pry out with your fingers, one end at a time as you break the suction seal holding them in place. Hard Air Magazine is a Trademark of Archer Airguns Inc. No spam, only great airgun news and deals. As it has multi-pump action, shooting practice and plinking is easier with this. Im a strong guy, and wouldnt have to worry about the extra effort to pump. I would use only the scopes and mounts Crosman recommends for use with the Intermount. You know, this is too good a topic not to do a posting. The Benjamin 392 has a caliber of .22 (5.5 millimeters). I would like to know which is a better rifle.crosman 1400 or benjamin 392 and why? I actually still have the gun and today pulled it out to look at it. While you would THINK it was exactly in the center of the range of travel, I have never seen one come from the factory that way. Ill get pellgun oil somehow (i might order it if i have to). His business card says Benjamin, Sheridan and old Crosman model 140/1400 pneumatic air rifle repair. He puts them back to factory specs. There are two variations of this gun. By the way, my own credit card info was stolen and used to by jewelry in Japan, so I know how your parents feel. As for silicone chamber oil, why not order it here? How many rounds does it take to break a rifle like this in? wont be too much fun in the winter then i guess, could i shoot it in my basement? I now pay all domestic bills by cash if humans are involved. The B-Square adjustable mounts are really necessary, but I like to keep all the scopes adjustments ready for sight-in, so I use them. Thus I am interested in possibly getting the power upgraded somewhere down the line so that I can bag chucks at longer ranges without worrying that the shots wont be lethal. When I shot the same way at eight pumps, all my groups stayed below 3 inches. I dont see how the valve alignment could be screwed up by pumping without cocking. Pump 5-8 pump strokes each time. It has been an intense 24 hours of education to this point. Beeman is just an importer. my 392 holds that pump for years. This posting is one of the all-time most popular ones and many like you have told us they love their 392 or 397. i ordered a c9 blue streak on sunday and was wandering if 20 cal is enough knock-down power at 30 yards with a well placed shot, also i have the 14.3gr cylindrical pellets. So Anyone whos reading this, dont be so quick to be shooting my way, try it out, but dont just stick to someone elses technique. The pellet impacted exactly where I was aiming for an instant kill. I enjoy long range plinking, i.e. Having said that, its best to ask Pyramyd Air when you place your order. Her best shot was a between-the-eyes offhand shot from 25 feet. Online Accessisbility | item 1 Benjamin Sheridan 397PA Air Pump Pellet Gun Rifle 4.5mm .177 Cal. You should start seeing lots of 392s soon. Sometimes you discover what doesnt work. Variable power. At 3 pumps it hits at Point of Aimpretty well. The new synthetic stock Model 392S and 397S air rifles continue to offer variable velocity capability, simply by making more or less pumps for the shot. Which ones should i try out? I have both, and each are mounted with a scope. You have obviously thought this thing through. I plan on using the open sight and not mounting a scope on this rifle.It did need some cleaning up from the box, the metal needed a good rub down and I lightly oiled the stock and rubbed it down and now it is beautiful. They will handle this problem for you. But Im guessing that even that wont solve your problem. Take it from someone who grew up behind the iron curtain, secretly watching John Wayne movies and dreaming of the open range. All three guns are more powerful than the 22SG, which is primarily why I am recommending them. He told me to pump it only 6 times, and to count to 2 between each pump. Just received my purchased 397 and it is a sturdy rifle that Im sure going to enjoy. Why We Like The Benjamin 392. Would either one generally be more accurate? Today, it causes a lot of confusion. How many times can you fill the Talon bottle from the Dive tank assuming you are operating on a low power setting on the Talon? Thats like buying a new car but not wanting to pay for gas because the price is so high. I had to put a yellow twist tie around the triggerguard so she could identify the Blue Streak among my other airguns (the pellet box was yellow in those days). Just a hint for those that use this sight in low light, unscrewing the aperture to remove it will turn this sight into a ghost-ring! And, yes, you CAN see the dot move. I was just curious with well placed shots of course, what type of hunting capabilites could the 397 handle within the 10-20yard range. If you are hitting low, you need to raise the rear of the scope. Hard Air Magazine covers the whole airgun community and provides visitors with a constantly changing variety of news and airgun test reviews. the co2 tanks cost almost ten dollars i see, is there an alternative? The air is compressed when the piston moves rapidly forward, shoved by the mainspring. What would a dive shop charge to fill up the bottle. And, do I have to push or pull the whole sight fixture after Ive adjusted the screws? All right reserved. But just a tad of oil mind you. I like both the 397 and the Bug Buster 2 just not together. The Bug Buster is just a scope and has little bearing on the Steroid tune. They dont seem to be made for that, do they? When you buy through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission at your free-charge. It is Spanish-made, but from what I hear, a cut above the rest. Currently I get about 1-1.5 groups at 20 yards with this set up using gamo hunters. No effect on performance or accuracy. now only in yellow i believe.A friend i used to hang arroud with never had a gun so i sold him a 397 he sent it in had it redone and i had a tough time shooting agains him.i believe he still has the gun to this day .I have resaled this gun once but am no longer able to find the relief vale for it.so it looks like im on the market for a new 397.would like to find a older one and redo myself.but the little 880 served me for over 20 yrs i still shoot it on occansion but its time to retire it i believe .mike, Hi My Name Is Alex And I was debating on getting a Benjamin Sheridan Pump Gun. I was hoping for more from these pellets, but my hopes were scattered almost as badly as the pellet groups . Thank you for your quick response. Can you recommend a good quality spring piston for under $250 that is appropriate for someone who is newly interested in the hobby? These birds are a little large for a 392, though it can do the job in a pinch. While observing the breech, I did notice that the rubber sealing ring was uneven in its seat,.nothing drastic, but am I safe to assume this is because of the breaking action and closing like a hinge (hittin one side before the other?) -Variable power. The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. Im trying to help with keeping up with posts to past blogs, but man Kevin you must have your system set up to beep like my kids cell phones depending on whos calling. . And if I can actually pull it off. BB,Wow thanks for the quick reply. Guess Ill have to get a new 397 and saw the stock off half-ways. .177 pellets are much cheaper. the last bb gun i had (crosman 760, i think) got about 5 inch groups at 20 feet (with a scope), while the benjamin got four pellets in the same hole at about 25 feet(with open sights, luck, mostly)!! My wife took posession of my Blue Streak when rats invaded out house. Although I really want a .22 pneumatic, I'm considering the Remington (Crosman) 77 which I've read good things about. [url]http://www.mac1airgun.com/steriodags.html[/url]. Being that the barrel is steel and not brass like my benjis, how often should I clean it. i aslo wanted to know where to oil my gun. 3. if so, what do u do? The green monofiliment in the front sight kept blurring/reflecting light into the scope, so I slid it out of the sight. You cock the mainspring with the sidelever. I just bought and received a Benjamin 392 after reading this blog. i showed her the 392 on the web and it was the same one! You have entered an incorrect email address! Benjamin 392 Pump Action Air Rifle .22 Caliber. Im with you. my gun is 2 days old. I even shot a few of the Gamos/Beemans in it today, and they were coming closer into range. can the crosman 1400 be modify in anyway.i know Mac1 have a new arm lincage for the crosman 392.would it work on the crosman 1400.have about tuning the valves.Honestly speaking which one you would rather have.? Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. If you have the money, I recommend either one of the Sheridans or the Benjamin 392. and i figured out that the pshh noise is coming from this little hole it says air hole do not oil. BB, I finally recieved my 392, and am kinda displeased with it. Well, I havent tested the Sierra Pro, so I really cant say. will it? Thanks for thinking I know the answer to this, but I dont. The robust forearm makes it easier to pump, too they say. If it pops, you just released the extra air. An email from Pyramydair for 10% off the price clinched my decision. The brass barrel is anti-corrosive compared to the steel one and doesnt rust easily. Ive had a 392 about 3 weeks now, cool little gun, kinda grows on you. Sorry about the typo. I noticed that you used the Air Venturi intermount on the pump-assist 392 with favorable results. Watching active hunters practise their craft initiated him into the world of hunting and rubrics of outdoor life. I had found them in a corner of a Sportsmans Club sports store. Even though it is brass, it will take hundr4ds of thousands of rounds, as long as they are lead pellets and not anything that would damage a brass bore. One thing to remember here is you need the scope with long eye relief and the scope must be positioned at a far distance from your eyes. Most are British, though quite a few are Chinese. Will it kill a raccoon and a grey fox if they are in very close range? That way the scope knobs can be centered and the mounts will account for the aim-off you need to get sighted in. They are made to fit an 11mm rail, which is larger than 3/8. To calculate the overall star rating and percentage breakdown by star, we dont use a simple average. They look really good on the Talon with a big scope. This Item Is Discontinued Check Out Similar Available Products. After running the numbers, a 10.6 grain Kodiak in .177 at 1000 FPS has a higher FPE than a 15.8 grain JSB Diabolo in .22 at 685 FPS. The question then arises, with my current stock gun, what do you think is the maximum range that a pellet could penetrate a chucks skull? Benjamin 392 doesnt have a scope rail to mount the scope. And speaking of pellets, which do u think work best in this rifle? thanks.Bill B. What do you do with pellets that arent accurate in your pellet guns? (from about 50 ft) thank you. And they wont burn a whole in your wallet either!! I adjusted the stop-screw up, and that helped out a good bit. I should note that for the purpose of this post, I did attempt to also reattach the sight, but I quickly gave up because it seems far more difficult than removing it. It belonged to one of my uncles and the only thing I know about the gun is that it dates back to the early 1940s. Ill try again tomorrow, but I have no high expectations anymore. It needs a rebuild and refinish. For example, as an Amazon Associate, HAM earns from qualifying purchases if you buy by clicking-through from that link. what can i do. What do you mean by the crack about the German guns? Buy one or more of these guns. I read Phils message about how hard the gun is to pump, and sure ive gotten stronger over the last year, but Im still pretty weak, I overly enjoy the computer and my ps2 (I border on the edge of girlish weakness) well ive nvr been strong and i think that having to pump up the gun by holding it to my chest might take away alot of the fun. I would recommend the Daisy 22SG for two reasons. I chose this gun because: 1) I like the lack of recoil that a pneumatic provides, 2) I like the fact that a multi-pump gun allows me to adjust the amount of power used, 3) The .22 cal packs a heck of a punch, 4) The materials used (steel, brass, hardwoodno plastic) and a tried-and-true design combine to make a great gun at an affordable price. 7.9 grains seems to be the magic weight for this rifle so far, the preds are around 8.2 grains resulting in the drop off,.I guess!!! They make the gun too hard to pump. If thats not for you, I recommend a spring gun. However, I am having difficulty getting it sighted it. I really like my Benjamin 397, but I need better sights. Furthermore, the barrel is made of brass (an alloy made of copper and zinc). I recieved the 397 and bsquared mount in the mail this week and I am forced to agree with you. Thanks.Dav. After mounting a brand new BSA 3-9 x 40 red dot scope on a B-Square intermount with Weaver rings, I found that I am consistantly shooting high. R.R. Forget stuck pellets you wont have any if you put at least 3 pumps in the gun. And the old gun is slimmer than the new one. The Blue Streak and 392 are very equivalent. Benjamin Trail NP. I thought you might be adjusting the scope tile backwards. If there is no significant difference in accuracy is there anything else I should consider (target knockdown power, etc) when making this choice? Whenever I make a circular hole for the peep sight and I look through it the hole seems to distort, like the light is stretching to the upper right and lower left. Pin front sight. Now the rifles are essentially the same. I think you are confused. could this wreck or bend or cave in the barrel after time? Thanks, John. By single cock I assume you mean a spring gun. Some shooters can even manage to get 1/4 at 30 yards and 1.25 at 50 yards. fps? i would like to buy benjamin sheridan 397, but when I checked the loudness it was 4 medium high. In other words, would four pumps produce in the neighborhood of 500 fps velocities and good accuracy on a repeatable basis? bb,i just recieved an older blue streak from my grandfather. Even then the scope gets in the way of pumping. Thanks for any insight you can provide. BB, Well whatever you call it, it was loud. I am not into the historic aspects of it, just function. At Wal Mart you should be able to find Benjamin Sheridan diabolo pellets. I got my 392 via regular land transport (2 days) today. I owned a Crosman 76 (?) Does the crosman 1400 and Benjamin 392 share the same pump system. It needs two-piece one-inch rings. But since my 397 has very special nostagic meaning to me, Ill be ordering another venturi mount asap. Looks like I have to use those with whatever mount and scope I go with. 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