Andhe said, I don't understand. It doesn't care if it's good science, certainly, and you don't have to be the most productive academic in the world to get money from them. Rigo:Yeah. 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Barry:We had DEFCON levels at my house, levels of security. So up until now, we've been talking about the neo Nazi propaganda that Barry Mehler gets in the mail, but what does he actually do with all the information he's collecting? Yes, and then these checks were often for ample amounts in the thousands of dollars to people, uh, just because Draper or Pioneer liked what they were doing. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. We were on the run. web pages Suddenly I'm in the suburbs of New York, and I'm walking down, uh, a street and a car drives by, and there's, uh, a, a father and his son, and the son screams out the window at me, you know, something like, "You dirty [expletive]." Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:Rigo, I feel like you're about to tell me that there's a secret clique or confederacy if you will of rich racists sitting in a basement somewhere funding every racist academic. And that's one of the things that The Pioneer Fund was able to do was to create outlets so that they could publish, they could review each other, they could support each other, and they could create this sense that this is a legitimate academic enterprise when, in fact, in the legitimate academic world, nobody was even aware that they existed. And then he has a long and thorough correspondence and involvement with people in Germany both before and after the Nazi ascendancy. Rigo:So Laughlin comes up with their first endeavor. He uncovers dozens of academics with double lives. That is the foundation for the claims that African-American people on average are intellectually inferior to whites. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. So here is a guy who's wiling to take a stand for racism, and the Pioneer was willing to give him anything to help him spread that news. Sam Harris:People don't want to hear that intelligence is a real thing, and that some people have more of it than others, and they certainly don't want to hear the average IQ differs across races and ethnic groups. Bill:I figured, okay. It's the Phil Donahue Show, one of the '90s most watched talk shows. Producer: Rigoberto Hernandez Rigo:They are still around. The worst thing they could do would be to harm you, and I'm here to make sure that doesn't happen, so for now, you just We have to stick together.". In fact, he spent his whole career going after people like Rushton, poking holes at their arguments, trying to get people to see them for what they really are, racist scientists. I mean, uh, there's a lot of skepticism, he's getting a lot of dirty looks from people in the audience. It gets stranger. Actually, this brings something up for me. Rigo:So, clearly method three achieved the desired effect, to find powerful like minded racists. This guy is so off his rocker. 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Its run was Lisa:Right. Rigo:No one has proven that these threats came from The Pioneer Fund, but what we do know is that The Pioneer Fund actually hired a private investigation firm. They painted the swastika backwards." Barry:When I was 13, you know, we have a bar mitzvah and, you know, a Jewish boy becomes a man, and there's a big party, and, you know, I have five brothers so I'm in middle, and so this was the first time they made a big fuss over me and I was the center of everybody's attention. And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. I have a position at Ferris State University. The thesis advanced by authors, Charles Murray and the late Richard Herrnstein in the bell curve is that I Q is the best predictor of a person's success. Recently, you were, uh Ferris State University suspended you for publishing a profanity based video. One were actual scientists working on projects that Pioneer though w- would have results that could be exploited for their political agenda. He seemed to be enamored of his Army experience, and that was his primary identification all his life, especially since he never really had a job of any sort. Rigo:It's called The Pioneer Fund, and over the years, it has bankrolled dozens of race scientists and other academics who push these kind of views. Lisa:I have no sympathy, Rigo, let's keep going. He openly endorsed it. He travels to Spain. And thus not remediable to major degrees by practical improvements in the environment. That's amazing amount of territory to traverse when you are one of the leading fascist academic and organizers in the world. web pages He originally thought any difference in intelligence Black and white people were from environmental factors, but after working with Shockley, Jensen started arguing that intelligence was inherited. When I looked at that, I said, "Here, finally, is a Nazi I don't have to worry about. After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). You might get something, but raise that up to 25 million to a really public place where i- it's the same thing as w- wearing the kippah. This was everywhere, [laughs] uh, while I was growing up. Innate Themecomposed by Jonathan Pfeffer. Unquote. Barry:I mean, to this day I can't, you know, tell you what that does to me. Lisa:It's also stunning to me that when Barry Mehler investigates The Pioneer Fund in the 1980s, they're still pushing the exact same ideas, and the exact same framing as they were in 1937. Most of it was junk race science, but some of the research and researchers were arguably legitimate so that if someone accused them of being a racist, they could point to legitimate research they funded. They decided that Jensen and Shockley should work together, and throughout that partnership, Jensen's ideas change. It's giving these ideas air, right? Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. So The Pioneer Fund doesn't really care about the science. William Shockley wasn't really producing anything new with their money, and he had a really prickly personality, so when his character got in the way of the message, The Pioneer Fund actually cut him off. The ideology, the quote, unquote, "scientific support for racial hierarchy," This stuff is getting mainstreamed in the 1990s, isn't it? This season we're going to talk about how racism and white supremacy have been baked into science , and how it's not about individual racists, or it's not about individual bad people, but in this story, there actually are individual bad people funding bad things. Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo It was clear that the anti Semitism was everywhere about me. Los Angeles - 1985 - Janet Leigh Jamie Lee Curtis.mp4, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). web pages They, they didn't know me at all. Lisa:Presumably he's not also a race scientist? WebIn his four-and-a-half hour Archive interview, Phil Donahue describes the meandering path that led to hosting his long-running talk show, The Phil Donahue Show aka Donahue. The collections and research newsletter brings you the latest on our acquisitions, library events, and programs. Television programsTelecommunications industry, MCI Communications CorporationLuce Press ClippingsAT & T (Firm), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225). So a '90s race scientist has come to the Phil Donahue Show. Barry's Jewish identity was visible to everyone all the time. I'm sure the teenagers loved it. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. We show that the Nigerians have longer penises. He was an avowed racist, and pretty public about it. Rigo:Orthodox Jewish men and boys wear a kippah, or a skullcap every day. You don't have to apply. Then I, I trust you believe there are others. Rigo:That was Barry Mehler Lombardo, a legal historian who studied The Pioneer Fund. He's a psychologist and a professor who's won a bunch of awards. Archival of Shockley:My research leads me inescapably to the opinion that the major cause of the American Negro's intellectual and social deficits is hereditary and racially genetic in origin. Rigo:Yeah, and The Pioneer Fund steers their work too. Lisa:Wow, this is delightful daytime content. He accuses Mehler of character assassination, bias, and of being a left wing nut. It's kind of a misunderstanding, or a misuse of Darwin's theory of evolution, and it's actually interesting that it's Darwin's cousin, his half cousin, Sir Francis Galton, who really advocates for this idea of genetic determinism. This episode examines a much more overt kind of scientific racism: by telling the story of a racist, wealthy, underground confederacythat has funded nearly every race scientist out there. Rigo:They were very entangled. Rigo:Okay. High quality topics, the wisdom of his years, masterful tactics in eliciting answers from guests and audience, crafty spontaneous, and at times - well timed pertinent flow of questions and inquiries, not self-opinionated, all these qualities that present talk-show hosts don't seem to have. What's it gonna be? And remember, the Harvard Educational Review, they published it. They wanted to sue me for libel, and throughout my career, I have been at risk of being sued for libel because, you know, you, you call people Nazis, and, you know, they get upset, and no one has ever been happy that I exposed their racist and right wing connections. Here's money for you. That's how I felt. Lisa:So this is kind of a David and Goliath situation, Guggenheim Fellow versus academic underdog. And even after his death, Pioneer continued the same tradition, which was the distribution of unsolicited works to various individuals in the hopes that it would influence public policy. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. You know, he's a brilliant guy, and he's got these ideas, and after all, he's probably right. Quote, "On two points, I put The Thunderbolt ahead of much of the American press. I was a minor academic in a tiny little institution, and Rushton was a Simon Guggenheim Fellow. Lisa:Back up a second. It's from an interview he did in Playboy Magazine. So the short story is that for Barry Mehler, all of this is personal, so when I ask him how he fell into this work, he took me back to his childhood in 1960s New York, where he was just a regular Jewish kid. Lisa:Sorry, Rigo, we haven't gotten to the really crazy part yet? It's like they were safe guarding race science ideology all these years. 5 (May, 1992) Improving Our Image Powerpoint Our Sorority Issue 15 (April 1987) Phyllis Frye and Phil Donahue TV Guise Vol. MSNBC canceled Phil Donahues talkshow after an internal memo (leaked to the All Your TV website, 2/25/03) argued that he would be a difficult public face for NBC in a time of war. Let's switch gears and talk about the bearded guy on the right, who has amazing muttonchops. historian, very mailer charges that the pioneer funds interest in race differences made the Bell Curves arguments. Rigo:Yeah, that's completely right. Rigo:It was a journal for racists by racists, a home for race scientists who had been rejected by other more mainstream journals. So Draper he's very proud of that. Find out all the details of his life Rigo:And since then, Mehler has always operated under the assumption that Nazis never really went away, and as it turns out, he's right. Okay, I don't want to make fun of the name in case there's somebody out there who's totally harmless who shares it, but of course that's the name of our rich racist villain. I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. At this point, Barry Mehler decides not to become a rabbi, and instead pursues the history of science, and in particular, the history of Nazis and race science. Barry:I had to really refrain from, um, speculating on Phil Rushton's penis size, but here was a guy who, "They may have bigger penises, but I've got a bigger brain." WebHost Phil Donahue questions Bill Clinton and Albert Gore, Jr. in the studios of Nashville's WSMV-TV, taking questions from members of the audience including Stacy Harris who Rigo:William Shockley didn't try to hide his connection to The Thunderbolt. Rigo:And there's more. [Description and dates], Hagley ID, Box/folder number, MCI Communications Corporation records (Accession 2225), Manuscripts and Archives Department, Hagley Museum and Library, Wilmington, DE 19807, Access to this item is provided for educational and research purposes only. Although it was widely dismissed, it is still cited today as evidence that white people are smarter than Black people, and it's all biological. on May 24, 2022, https://mytvlog.blogspot.com/2010/03/phil-donahue-show-1970-tv-series-1970.html, There are no reviews yet. Rigo:The Pioneer Fund only cared about upholding white supremacy. Lisa:Not surprised to hear that they're not just spewing hateful ideas, they're acting on them. Rigo:Roger Pearson was a British guy who starting in 1958 ran a neo Nazi publication called Northern World out of a British tea plantation in Kolkata, India. Be the first one to, Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Donahue - Female Impersonators - 1987.ia.mp4, Donahue - Playboy Daughters - 1990.ia.mp4, Donahue The 25th Anniversary - 1992.ia.mp4, Donahue Then and Now - Male Strippers - 1987.ia.mp4, Phil Donahue Show - Adult Entertainers - Nov 1987.ia.mp4, Donahue - Female Impersonators - 1987.mp4, Donahue Then and Now - Male Strippers - 1987.mp4, Phil Donahue Show - Adult Entertainers - Nov 1987.mp4, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). Lisa, could you read this quote from him? And so, Pioneer has been the keeper of the flame, in this case. Lisa:Chapter Two: The Mankind Quarterly. And it's a label they pin on people and then you don't even attend to what the person said. Barry:And he's endorsed by President Ronald Reagan, uh, right? Rigo:They named it The Pioneer Fund, but sometimes people called it the Draper Fund because it was all of his money, and they funded whatever he wanted. Rigo:So the Mankind Quarterly was not taken seriously by their academics, and you can see that in their impact score. Whites have fewer sexual partners than do blacks. Every place I went for a scientist, uh, or a- an activist who had been involved in these issues, there was connections between them and Draper and Pioneer. What was striking was the more extreme you were, the more successful you seemed to be in this whole world, and what I found interesting was that you could have, uh, a very mainstream sort of academic career, and then you could be on the editorial board of Roger Pearson's Mankind Quarterly, and nobody would notice that. He fired almost all of the current faculty, and made openings for other neo Nazi scientists. Rigo:That guy went on to become the world's largest publisher of neo Nazi material in Canada. Is this a secret conspiracy, or is any of it happening in the open? Barry:And Ron said to Issac, "Isaac, there are some people who might want to harm your father. Bill:Yes. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. "No, we're not passing racist laws because we hate people who are different from us, we're just following the science." Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. Rigo:So method three was the most important and consistent. And apparently Draper was also kind of shy. Phil Donahue reminisces about the most nerve-racking episode of The Phil Donahue Show.New videos every afternoon at 3pm Monday-Friday!Subscribe To Marlo If you would like more information, please contact
[email protected]. I never wasted a trip. So which is bigger, long or fat. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:This is the thing Dr. Mehler and all my opponents don't have to answer the intellectual argument.All they have to do is start throwing words around like Nazi and racist and fascist. Rigo:Yeah. What Pearson had done was he brought together all of these fascist intellectuals, academics that had been orphaned by the war, and they needed a place to come together. Rigo:So I asked Barry Mehler about the video. You know? Lisa:Ah, the infamous William Shockley. Rigo:Kind of, yeah. Rigo:Something that a lot of people don't know is that the Nazis got the ideas about eugenics from the United States. The white race is absolutely endangered, and the Jews have absolutely control over the mind of Americans. WebAn icon used to represent a menu that can be toggled by interacting with this icon. February 5, 2022 by . Barry:The word pioneer has a real meaning to these people. Paul: And while he's in Europe Draper quite literally pals around with Nazis. Rigo:Even though his work was only in left leaning publications, the TV appearances were a big platform for Mehler to refute their ideas, but he says that might have been for nothing. Second, it sometimes publishes valid news that I don't find elsewhere." His final episode was aired on September 13, 1996. And one day while he was reading The Thunderbolt, Barry sees a familiar name, William Shockley. Rigo:They're projecting, obviously. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. The publication of the book put The Pioneer Fund and Barry Mehler on the spotlight. To check on you officers. It was much more prevalent in the earlier part of the 20th Century, but as it has become less and less popular among, uh, the academic mainstream, the few people who still adhere to it are those funded by Pioneer. Boy, they must have hit it off right away. Unpublished finding aid available at the repository. So Cox, and Laughlin, and Draper all have a hand in this racist advocacy right up to the floor of, of the Senate, as well as over in Germany. Rigo: In 1935, before the Pioneer Fund is official, Laughlin sends Wycliffe Draper to a eugenics academic conference in Berlin. on the Internet. Rigo: So I had a chance to Barry Mehler recently, and I asked him about the appearance on Phil Donahue three decades ago. He's an academic like Rushton, but less prestigious. Barry: The Pioneer was looking for scholars who were willing to take a stand, and that's what Jensen was willing to do. There's a cost to negative publicity, and that maybe he's learned that, uh, there is a way of funding the kinds of, um, activities that he's, uh, in favor of without making them very prominent. Rigo:Yes. Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. 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