The context surrounding the images, which were stills from a moving video, has never been given. Wow! It bothered me that another child would have to be hurt, possibly killed to solve this crime. That bridge was really scary-looking, having no side rails. West End star Stephanie Lawrence died of natural causes after suffering fromliver disease, it has Who would remember that years later to the day? Did the transcripts get leaked on purpose in the hopes someone would rat out the dad? If they don't have solid DNA evidence or similar which I'm assuming they don't, given that they can't rule this guy in or out, it could be very hard to prove who killed the girls. The jury of sex men and six women, however, accepted the pleas of Garnetts attorney and declined to sentence him to death. What good is it if you haven't done your investigation so that you can get a conviction. Not sure why, when the whole thing is grotesque. His voice sounds similar. Not even close. R188 Maybe but I suspect this Leigh Kerr is the real deal. It would have saved the county the cost of a trial. Hell, there have been cases solved after 40 or 50 years..so why not 4 years? Her only child. It involves the girls talking with him and even meeting him intentionally. Oh thank you R226, R227! The timing of the girls recording, their death and the finding of their bodies also meant the killer acted quickly which likely means he had a confidence in surroundings. It is only when we mature into mid to late teens that the concept of making our own decisions develop. The sheriff is also shaped like the man in the photos and videos. Local news reports in 2018 discuss the frustrating lack of answers in the Delphi murders case. MYSTERY continues to surround the so-called Delphi Snapchat murders, nearly five years on from the killings of two teenage girls in Indiana who were found dead near a train track back in 2017. Delphi murders: Read the redacted probable cause affidavit in Richard Allen's arrest The affidavit does not indicate how Libby and Abby were killed Feb. 13, Both families maintain that Abby and Libby weren't catfished. The charges stem from a search of his Peru, Indiana home on February 25, 2017 - just 11 days after the bodies of Liberty and Abby were found. It was probably the county sheriff's nephew. R320--- I had forgotten about that murder, thank you. I suspect they were gagged. I wonder if investigators could have worked out approximate height from the video, since that would have been a good tip to look out for. R384- STOP TRYING TO MAKE CHADWELL HAPPEN Why do you gaf, you creepy asshole. What I dont get is where was the phone? I live in Indiana and LE mentioned at one time the girls were controlled by the mans dogs and the bodies had bite marks. I think he must have had a gun, I have a hard time seeing how he could have killed them otherwise. No one really has a good idea of what he looks or sounds like. Will slip up and give a detail only he knows. My impression just from the photo and his recording is that hes middle aged, has a fairly decent job, knew what he was doing and was comfortable, has pretty good taste in clothes, not a slob, people wouldnt suspect him, has a boat. You're funny, r3, but the story really is horrifying. It was almost like it was a family member who did this.. If they had anything, this guy would be caught. There's video of Chadwell in 2016 with the tattoo already on his arm, r388. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in the neighbourhood of Hampstead, which is located in the city of London, England, UK. I think it's quite plausible that the guy was walking carefully because of a rotting bridge. We endeavor to be promptly responsive in correcting errors in the material published on digital platforms. No one has time for that shit, Plus the mail has really become a repug propaganda site. Investigators need to think outside of what "real drug dealers do" or "real people do" - there is no REALITY to a crime like this. To this day, he says between 6-8 people work on Libby and Abbys case each day throughout the week. ", Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address: [email protected]. Also per Leigh Kerr, the girls were killed at the spot they were found and were dead by the time Liberty Germans father came to find them. But then Leigh Kerr appeared last week. You might even have to pay before the delivery but never after. I think that there were 2 guys and that Chadwell MIGHT be the one who says, "Down the hill, guys but he probably isn't Bridge Guy." Chadwell is an amateur tattoo artist and he got tattoos while he was in prison. R14 During one of the press conferences a couple of years ago, the police stated that they had someone in mind and they were probably watching the press conference at that moment, they went onto say that the culprit would slip up and they had almost certainly told someone something about the murders and that person would come forward eventually. Kim Riley with the Indiana State Police. This is as messed up as the JonBenet Ramsey murder. Liberty has previously been heralded a "hero" by investigators for her quick-thinking actions, with cops citing the recording to be a key shred of evidence. How many ways can you say GUILTY. The victim type is essential to their rape, kill fantasy. R113 I have read that a tree branch was inserted into Abbys abdomen, but not sure how (as in pressed into her stomach or inserted into her vagina). Ever since the drama with "verifying" the guy who goes by Leigh Kerr on the subreddit, he's completely disappeared, right? I didnt see him again that night. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. I truly thought this was a crime of opportunity. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. He looked away during poignant moments and gulped at one point. Based on comments at r214 u-tube link, sounds like dudes theory is at least interesting . but the narrator is way too slow. Of course, they're not going to tell us everything they have uncovered in this investigation. A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. I said this on another thread: was it pure incompetence by detectives or were they going after something bigger. "We realized that this is a totally different type of investigation.. I actually rewatched the transition multiple times. Essentially some interrogation transcripts that were supposed to be sealed were posted publicly and then quickly withdrawn not before someone got them. A rare development in the case was shared by cops earlier this week when they announced they were hunting for the creator of a bogus social media profile that was grooming underage girls and attempting to meet with them. And interestingly he is web savvy. Maam? Why are the cops on the case being so fucking mysterious? We have estimated The teens took a walk down some historic, wooded trails on the east side of town, and ended up stepping onto the old Monon High railroad bridge. The guy was a stranger to them. Q. Chadwell was in prison for 13 years and he worked on bridges. Pretty sure anybody crossing that bridge wouldn't exactly be race-walking across it. Those reddit links are all over the place. This is why I question that persons credibility. Posters have pointed out that Bridge Guy appears to be trying to hide behind a tall, skinny tree that is camera right to the photo of Abby crossing the bridge. It would take a full thread to note some things that have been released by law enforcement. [quote] Payback? i really hope they have some DNA evidence in the Delphi case. Those poor, poor girls. He cut her eyelids so her eyes appeared "open," and then tilted her head slightly on the bed so she looked to be staring at whoever walked through her door. (1961). Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered in Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. ON Reddit, they were saying that KAK (fat pedo guy) or someone who was using the catfish FB acct, used to post on the FB private forum where Libby's sister Kelsi posts (It's called: DELPHI MURDERS! Fouts was one of the members in the club. Im sure I sound kooky, but ithese details were so obvious and couldnt be ignored. I'm not sure how I feel. In that first sketch, shown below, detectives say the mans hat was changed to make his facial features more recognizable. R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. don't in any way contradict the date of the murders. "I run through that day every day, trying to find out if there is something I could have done differently," Kelsi said. The suspect appears to be older. I guess its because it happened in broad daylight, out in the open. They stayed for most of the testimony, but left when medical examiner Halbert Fillinger testified about the case of death. If they have someone who is 90% a good candidate for killer, I just have him "suicide.". I remember when this happened, and thinking that they would have someone in no time. HLN is doing a 2 part series on the Delphi girls on Feb 14 and 15. Friends of the two said they had seen them together around 9:30 p.m. or 10 p.m. on March 5, 1971, in the area of East Market Street and South Matlack Street. This is close to an evidentiary information question and I prefer not to respond. Im thinking not. He has killed before. Would a stranger to the town be aware of it? "Directly to the killer, who may be in this room: We believe youre hiding in plain sight," Carter said. They have to be extremely careful not give the killer's defence ANY reason to make the jury doubt he did it. Our investigators are still, on a daily basis, receiving information which can be looked into. Yeah creepy. I hope shes ok and the police is looking into it. I have read that he planned to take them somewhere but they broke and ran at some point and he was furious and then killed them quickly but not the way he fantasized (taking them somewhere and keeping them alive for a while first). 40s? A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. However, if there's a whole ring behind this anthony_shots profile, maybe that's what they're trying to get him to expose. Very sorry. This presumed lack of DNA is one reason why people believe the girls weren't sexually assaulted. Another theory is first sketch (old guy) was taken from witnesses and the video. I am not surprised that this crime was committed there, and I would not be surprised if Indiana law enforcement officers know exactly who did it and are simply too complicit or too incompetent to bring the killer or killers to justice. I always roll my eyes at the 'owed money to drug dealers' theory. Looks like a socio. A witness came forward and described a car parked in a small lot near one of the trail exits for a few hours on the day of the murder. [quote]The only thing I can think of is that he was comparing body to body three unusual things done to/with each body. The name means leaker.. It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. A cop? I do hope she's ok as well. Try a different tactic or call it a cold case. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. I meanor they couldve been told by someone who knows the non public information. One thing Leigh Kerr said that makes sense - he was watching them through binoculars. (WLS) -- There is a new All these years later, police still have not given many details about the cause of death to protect the case. I don't think the cops have a clue who this guy is. But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. Per Leigh Kerr, the signatures included hair missing from both girls and their bodies posed in a relgious but also sexual way. In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. Holes, the retired homicide investigator, also said the app could prove helpful, as perhaps the closest thing the public has to more photos of the Delphi killings. The video image of course turned black but it kept recording audio of their murders, which were evidently horrorific. This is why I question that persons credibility. He does fit so well. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Hopefully, it's him to give the family closure and he don't kill other girls. Lawrence went on to star in a series of Andrew Lloyd Webber hits, including Starlight Express and Cats. R272-- I think he was also carrying weapons, maybe even a "kill kit." Oh Dear, this is so just so close to home! Its 65-70 feet off the river deck. All the "recent" info is a bunch of conjecture from a supposed insider who has been all over the FB groups and Reddit. While police continue their search for the Delphi killer, people across the country have been coming up with their own theories about who is responsible. It seems he came prepared with a weapon. A. They're probably going to kill you anyway. Short legs, but not abnormally short. Honestly, if they used a knife, the decision to not release the COD would be even more strange. What's the update? And the tattoo predates the murders, but it makes me think he'd stalked Libby. He decapitated one poor girl and posed her head on a mantle as if her head was looking down at her body. A. I question the credibility because the "graphics editor" is wearing Lee press-on nails while pointing to something in those grainy pictures. R192 My understanding is the Facebook page had a photo of an amateur singer as the profile photo. It is very difficult to study this case. See full bio Born: All we have is what little knowledge we have learned from previous serial killers. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. I truly don't believe Libby was meeting him (or the "model") bc it sounded like she had to get her grandma's permission, her sister to drive, and her dad to pick them up. 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