When Ruger made a new .45 LC Redhawk capable of firing .45 ACP, I told myself I want one of those. Not like that should be a problem anyways. Absolute .357 Mag in a revolver for me is a minimum. Hunting, Watch on. DRT. But please.no one has mentioned marine flares..is the problem that they do not work or that they are too slow to activate. Cork Grahams rig. They truly are amazing creatures: When you're out strolling in the woods, there's no way for you to defend yourself from a mountain lion using an air rifle. Commander. I carry my Glock G20 SF 10mm when I walk our dogs. The 12 ga. shop reading and start thinking. My handloads push a 300-grain hard-cast bullet to 1,614 fps. You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. In general, 10mm, .44 magnum, or better seems like the best choices (including .454 Casull). If you can't gain proficiency and carry something of reasonable power level, then go with spray. Yes it is a bit heavy, but as said earlier.with a charging bear 8.5lbs of 458 SOCOM feels like a down pillow . They eventually had to replace them with the Makarov series because of over-penetration. When it comes to wheel guns should they be ported? Not enough bullet weight. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! Hell I wish someone would make a wheel gun for the 416 rem mag. If we didnt carry our primary hunting rifle, we carried a shotgun. Put up the fishing gear and settled in for the night. Conflicts between mountain lions and humans have become more common in recent years due to habitat degradation and increasing populations. It definitely works. 1st Bullet passed completely through the animal head to rump. Ive hunted brown bear three times with a hand gun only. The Marine carried an AR15/M4 .223 REM/5.56MM. (altho I make and sell them) I want straight line complete penetration best offered by a hard LBT. 39% were found to . Im still skeered o rabbies. Always do your homework before entering any unfamiliar land, especially bear infested areas so you will be acquainted with these and other survival techniques including escape routes should you encounter an emergency situation. Back in the 70s, this form of competition was only for revolvers. Carry the biggest freaking Gun you can shoot very very well ! I would still rather have a 12 gauge though. When the smoke cleared the bear knew where I was (on the ground) and headed my way. Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. False economy at that point. Did they field dress and later skin it ? As most readers are probably aware, a cougar (aka mountain lion) attacked a couple of mountain bikers in California last month [ Outside Online News: January 9 . And those advanced industrial countries will collapse when their native population collapses in 20-30 years. why dont you buy a BB gun for backup. not litter the landscape. This makes cougars great jumpers, able to leap from the ground 18 feet up into a tree. What I really love I the light weight of the Blackhawk, its great in a shoulder rig. Schalow was 10 years old at the time. Scientific Evidence regarding bear spray?.. Fortunately, I had a spare cap in my pocket. We hadnt thought of that. This calls for a heavy crimp (I use a Redding profile crimp die and seat and crimp in two seperate operations useing H-11O or Win. I read an article recently that said you are statistically more likely to survive a bear attack using mace rather than a sidearm. Hardly know its even there. The key is putting the projectile in the right spot. Loaded with a hard cast 250 gr bullet at about 1050. Browning on your sail boat, that will keep you happy ! Its getting to be real world, daily and wont get better until folks like us step up and step forward. Department spokesperson Peter Tira told LA Times: "It's been a day-to-day, hourly kind of situation. I always heard all you need is a .25 auto. based on their investigations of human-bear encounters since 1992, persons encountering grizzlies and defending themselves with firearms suffer injury about 50% of the time. Just stay away from me because you are just asking for trouble. Absolutely. No bear or cubs life is worth a human life. I use the buffalo bore +P 340 for bear loads. Most rangers will tell you a $50. Suddenly everyone was yelling at Paul not to move and the somewhat lethargic lion placed his jaw on the boys head and put its paw on him. 44 mag or most any other caliber in those ranges if the person using it knows how to shoot. Not only does it take time to shoot, but it's also not enough to stop a cougar from coming at you. Ive chronoed this load at 1325fps, its kickass on Elk. You arent arent going to get to reload and the targets are moving really fast. Note on BLACK BEARS they have become highly predatory in Alaska. One guy, a native of Alaska (Marty) carried a .22 Magnum revolver. The young boy said he could not feel the teeth because they were dull, but Paul did feel the scratches from the big paw. Which brings up the old but true adage. And yet if you carry an effective caliber/bullet combination for coyotes and small mountain lions, you are seriously underpowered for the big beasts in the woods. Before any bear country hunt I practice with it a lot. I would rather have a .44 mag with a 6 barrel or the 454 Casull but it was a practical upgrade and is light enough with 5 rounds to carry on long hikes. Mountain lions have been terrorizing livestock in Lake County over the past weeks, and this was not the first instance to be reported to authorities. They want to second guess people. My advice would be take the largest caliber you can comfortably handle. Most sheep hunts have included bear encounters. Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. With that said, feel free to carry bear spray if you want. However, I dont think that a short barrel revolver will produce such a velocity. carry the biggest piece of iron that you can place multiple rounds accurately and in very little time, amigos.. Black bears and mountain lions can be killed if they cause death or injury to other people. I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. If one only goes out when and where a mild breeze at most is at their back on a sunny day.. Well you get my drift. Great point with the Redhawk recommendation! The statement that you wont be able to dump a full magazine into a charging bear is likely true as well. The SW 460 mag xvr is the best choice in my opinion. Leave bear territory, do a quick mag switch and your back to the right rounds for CCW. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. Bears have a way of sneaking up on you. Even then, I havent seen a failure in nearly 10 loadings, at which time I usually get rid of them. had the game warden not had his .357 Magnum holstered on his person the Grizzly Inside the house, condo, apartment, or indoors such should Newsweek has contacted the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for comment. My hunting partner puts his faith in the Colt .45, and it will get the job done. 45 & 9mm do not get past the fat layer to break bones and damage vital organs. You'd be much, much better off with bear spray. I would also explore all the different kinds ammo available that would be the best for an attack by a bear. In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. The 357 mag is much better then the 40S&W as well. Underwood now has a 230grain all copper extreme hunter load at 1700fps. What about a Judge or Governor, that can shoot .45 Long Colt or .410 shotgun shells? He saw a seasoned Ranger carry the same rigging and said that was good enough for Him. 44 mag is a minimum and it would have to be a DA version. I learned more in this article about wildlife and practical sidearms than any other article to date in thirty-five plus years. . Its jackass. My advice: If youre standing, attempt to avoid a confrontation; and mentally prepare yourself for the greater likelihood that youll be on your back being chewed on. I want to be able to pump 8 to 18 rounds in his head as fast as I can. He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. The species are abundant in the state, numbering around 4,000 to 6,000 estimated creatures. Young cubs are emerging for the first time, and mothers are ultra-protective. Works good for road rage as well. I doubt that I have walked past a moose without noticing. Derek Wolfe told Tucker Carlson he plans to eat the mountain lion he hunted. I simply killed her with kindness, responding: for the same reason you dont buy bathroom tissue, one sheet at a time, MAMM. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. The 12-year-old in Alaska who just shot the brown with the shotgun is the son of a good friend. Despite the firepower, these guys all tried to avoid brown bear encounters. You didnt say anything about the Ruger SuperRedHawk .454 Casull? The Hodgden #25 manual does show loads for a 200-grain bullet using HS6, Trap100 and HP38 powders. More is always better and the bullet is the key. She attacked the 65-pound animal, striking . Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. 9 shot can shred the head of a rattlesnake up close. These people were lucky they didnt get rabies. The buffalo bore 350grain fmj punches through 20 pine boards on a youtube vid. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. All shots were heart lung.The racoon dispatched with a .45 was knocked about 4 inches sideways, crawled about a foot and died, the racoons shot with the 9 mm flinched and continued staggering towards a brushy ditch and escape, I placed a shot between the shoulder blades as I had gotten behind it and advanced from the high bank of the ditch. For the most part, good info. They are considered important in maintaining ecosystems and controlling other animal populations such as deer, its preferred prey. This is perfect mountain lion habitat. your comments hold great weight with me!! The animal slain by the man charged on Tuesday was a mountain lion known to wildlife biologists as P-38, a male about 7 years old believed to have sired four litters of cubs, said Karen Wold . Its got the velocity, but wonder if it would have the penetration? The Smith & Wesson 329 PD is by far the best handgun choice for self-defense against bears and boars while out and about in the woods. WLN LBT even at long ranges with factory twists. I do reload them hot. 8gr 800-X will put some lead into anyones pencil. If you choose a 9mm in bear country, you dont want hollow points but maybe something like Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetratorwith its solid copper bullet. heat treated WFN LBT now for these situations. A moose attacked me on my property when I first moved here, but it was because I was trying to get close enough for a good picture really DUMB! Changing, yes, but then you look at the ravages of the recent volcanoes and all the CO2 released. Feature Articles, If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. Look it up. OMG! Here in Upstate New York we have a very healthy black bear population, and highway sightings are quickly becoming a regular occurrence, as are the classic raids on bird feeders and garbage cans alike. I was carrying my S&W M-57 4 inch gun. Now, my colleague and fellow Alaskan Phil Shoemaker has effectively defended himself with a 9mm against a charging brown bear, but I prefer to carry a .45 ACP with me as my round. That said, the 4-3-1 is a simple and effective rule of thumb. Lions are very powerful and usually kill large animals, such as deer and elk. These lions belong there. Methinks your anti-Judge/Governor bias is showing. Those who think they can empty their Glock into a charging bear are fools. Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. style bullet or a solid jacketed bullet with a large flat meplat no mater the caliber used. Rocky the dog was left with a hole in his head that went "down to his brain" after he bravely defended his . of course be loaded and kept down loaded with .38 Special ammo (modern). Radically Invasive Projectile G2 ammo works! Youre 100% correct. Can some of the huge pistols work? Big bears do not get big being stupid around people. But .380's tend to be small handguns, and with a mountain lion if it's within the accurate range of a small pocket gun you're likely already dead. I enjoyed the article. Regarding your story about the two men from California who discharged bear spray in their hotel room in their haste to try it out forcing the hotel to gut and refinish the room entirely, of course after evicting the two Californians. Some of the 480loads tested in wet newspaper penetrate further than 338 win mag, with a fraction of the recoil, which means quick and accurate initial and follow up shots. Once at night on a fishing trip in the beartooths we had a grizzly fooling around out side the tent, Out I went with my trusty .475 in one hand and a flashlight in the other. As far as I am concerned the best handgun for a person is one they are familiar and competent with. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. Same holster also. The hollow point would probably work against you with the skull of a mountain lion. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. # 3. Good stuff. The Hornady 325gr Leverevolution is a whole different story. Can mountain lions jump? coyote-wolf hybrids 1. No thanks. Mountain lions are normally very secretive and cautious. A farmer living in Lower Lake, in Lake County, noticed the dead lambs last week and notified the California Department of Fish and Wildlife. What would make a good companion piece [long gun] regardless of sidearm? Not an expert by any means, just always loved the horribilis in the name, denoting the end result of chance meeting with an angry Grizzly in a dark alley. The BS in this article is deep. It is all filled with a bias against firearms.. In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. and I usually see a grizzly when I hunt almost within sight of Cody Wy. Handloaded in a Blackhawk as described in my earlier post, the .45 outdoes the .44 mag. You could see he was definitely sizing [P.J] up, Smith said. load of No. I have never had a chance to stop a bear yet buy was close to one in Yellow Stone park a few years ago when the bear came All cats are rats. I looked at my knife on my hip and quickly decided thst wouldnt work. I read that several times as well. The cowboy loads are mild and fun to shoot and loaded with 300 plus grain hot loads it is very similar to a 44 mag. Like I said before , I wish someone would make a 416 Rem Mag. The second shot went CLICK. First round 00 buckshot then slugs. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. Laboratory work several days after the attack would have indicated rabies. Couple Im friends with have a vacation home in NW Montana(we all live in So. For actual hunting a big bear, 375 H&H; I guess I love the classics. But Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. a Ruger Blackhawk, chambered in .45 Colt, stainless finish with a 7 -inch barrel. Eventually, Ill get around to getting a .460 Rowland kit and chest holster for my 1911 and start taking that instead. Yes! There are a lot of good things to be said about a shotgun and big buckshot in regard to saving ones own life! For more information about Federal ammunition, click here. The Creator has a great plan, and I do not really miss the dodo bird or the carrier pigeon. Penetration tests have shown that load to penetrate almost exactly the same distance as a standard hardcast 44 Magnum load. Buffalo bore and underwood make fmj,hardcast and exteme hunter ammo. I believe that model Ruger is single action, right? If that is the mountain lion in the background why is it field dressed. P-38 was a male mountain lion born in 2012 and first collared in 2015, the statement said. HP ammo may be great for two legged predators, not so much for those with fourand large teeth! My second firearm of choice because it works for two legged predator as well is my Springfield XDM 460 Rowland. Hard cast is king. Full size 9mm is better, a rifle/shotgun with it's longer sight radius is even better (with the .380 as a backup still). There are many rifles to go with other calibers that would be nice to have same caliber bullet in pistol and rifle (i.e. Local dog hunters said lion are easy to kill and they use a 22lr pistol. In most cases, a 22 caliber rifle will not be able to kill a mountain lion. Thanx! Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. Hunters must contact a CPW office within 48 hours of a lion . Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. Now thats an appropriate comment. FL). Just as with dangerous game rifles, using a cartridge that is too big to allow for proper shot placement isnt a wise idea; shot placement is everything. Flat shooting gun with a lifetime warranty. Not a chance will I ever take those with me here in Alaska, other than around town where bear issues are far more unlikely. It is likely this mountain lion killed the lambs as they are readily available. For this update, we found another .22 rimfire case, two additional 9mm cases, another .38 special case, three additional .357 magnum cases, another 10mm case, five additional .44 magnum cases . Yea, a revolver and its speed loaders generally only hold 6 rounds each, but it can be reloaded very quickly. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. A rabid animal is something you do not even want to touch. Why are you people just bubbling so much is it because you need to say something that means nothen in the real world. When I head afield, I nearly always carry one form of sidearm or another, and while the truly dangerous encounters are definitely a rarity, I feel better knowing I can protect my loved ones and coworkers should the event unfold. If doing this with very heavy bullets a change in rifleing twist may be more suitable if longer ranges are expected. Smith & Wesson. I would have no reservation about using it on a mountain lion. That wouldnt do it for me. I shoot a 44 mag Ruger Redhawk 4 in ss I love it. Certainly a .22 is enough to kill anything if you shoot it in the head point blank. and when was the last time you saw a wolves, let alone a bear.?????? The one time I did push these cases was to experiment with that claim, and after 5 heavy loadings, the primer pockets were very loose, but no sign of any case separation. Now before we take a look at particular models and calibers, lets get one basic premise out of the way: when the excrement hits the oscillator, any gun is better than no gun. They could see the best place to setup before the Mosquito came out. I also have a small Freedom Arms in .500 Wyoming Express. Key Points: No dog, regardless of the breed, would be able to take on a full-grown mountain lion solo. For the outdoors person a revolver can likewise .38 Special is great fun for plinking, but I would never rely on it for self defense unless I use the +P Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain out of a 4 which reportedly is at 2000 FPS. While hunting is one of my favorite pastimes, fishing and hiking are a wonderful means of spending time with friends and family and living in close proximity to both the Catskill and Adirondack mountains, there is ample opportunity for both of those activities. Its a simple concept. If the attacking bear is perfectly downwind, you will have some chance with bear spray. They are not fun to shoot, not fun to carry. Mountain lions weigh up to 198lbs, reach 30 mph at top speed, and only bite with a force of about 400 PSI. Thats why I would always plan to have with me.a friend who could not run as fast as me!!!!! He killed the first recorded Texas alligator attack on a man on land EVER! BTW chest rig is way to go with X frame revolvers. Your 9mm, .38 spl. Expert trackers look for the following to identify mountain lion tracks: Three lobes at the bottom of the pad. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . There are videos out there that show this gun/ammo combo going through both sides of the current US Army helmet. Anyway, Ive had my share of sleepless nights in a tent in Alaska and try to heed to basics keep food well away from camp, cook away from camp, dont camp on trails, avoid cubs like the plague, if approached give ground, etc. I no longer use trick bullets or many jacketed bullets. . A handgun was what you might carry out to take a dump at night to make you feel better. But I enjoy listening to people who think they know everything prove they dont. Get as informed as you can, and make the best choice you can. .45 Colt may be questionable, but better than a .38. Ill stick 50 round box should last a lifetime. HSM .45LC 325 grain is a real stopper. Hell no! Hornady, A 45 Long Colt? NEDERLAND A mountain lion killed after it attacked two dogs in a neighborhood near Nederland on Dec. 27 had no dog remains in its gut when it died, according to a Colorado Parks and Wildlife necropsy report. Not trying to be cute, but when you slaughter a hog, you shoot them in the head. I heard that some hikers on Mt. The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. The local police department and/or county sheriffs office can also respond to mountain lion-public safety calls to a 911 operator. What can a .38 special kill? For me, Id say whatever you have at the time is better than nothing. The female mountain lion in a chilling faceoff with a solo trail runner in Utah wasn't trying to kill him. .38spl are pretty light loads. 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